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As a VB.NET MVP, I love seeing stuff like this from the VB.NET product team:
(I can't share most of the email, since it's NDA, but here is what I can share.)


Also, here are some data points that make us confident in VB’s momentum.  This is the kind of thing I share with other teams when I engage them about “speaking vb”.  We’ve made the decision that you can freely talk about these data points in public (not under NDA) :

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  • Visual Basic is the #1 .NET language (as reported by Forrester Research)
  • Visual Basic is most downloaded and registered Express Edition
    • Visual Basic Express is ranked #1
    • Visual C++ Express is ranked #2, by a difference of 20% from #1
  • Visual Basic has the most trafficked MSDN language dev center and blog  
  • VB Team blog is in the top 1% in readership of all MS bloggers

---non-NDA---

 Face it folks, VB.NET isn't going to be "going away" for a VERY long time. Sorry Georgie...

(BTW, that's not a typo...  C++ is number TWO, not C#. Apparently Visual Web Developer is #3... *snicker* I wonder where C# is...  )

Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:01 PM General Interest | Back to top


Comments on this post: Good news from the VB.NET product team

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You know, those are some _great_ stats. I've wondered as of late whether the Developer and Platform Evangelism team here at Microsoft (which I am a part of) doesn't give VB the love it deserves.

To me, it becomes almost a self-fulfilling prophecy when all the "cutting edge" demos we give are written in C# and not VB.
Left by Jason Olson on Oct 31, 2007 3:59 PM

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Well well well. Seems to me General McCarthy and his loyal minions and/or fellow travellers owe the C# folks a big fat apology ;-) Just kidding.

That's an interesting couple of points though , especially the C++ thing. I'd love to see the survey data b/c It doesn't surprise me a bit that VB is number one, but I know exactly 3 people that have used VC++ with .NET and can count the number of VC++ dotnet books on my hands - I'm still having a little trouble with that one.

Anyway homie, great post - definitely some interesting info.
Left by Bill on Oct 31, 2007 6:25 PM

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Yeah, turns out C# Express is a close number 4... well, close to number 3 anyway. There's a bit of distance between 1 and 2.
Left by Chris G. Williams on Oct 31, 2007 6:58 PM

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Obviously, C# isnt being downloaded by amateurs who need to learn how to program in Basic first, before moving onto something with abit more respectability.

Of course VB ranks highly. because its a Basic language. And easy to implement. A great language for learning.

But time after time, VB literature will always talk about binding datasets to datagrids, or change listbox colours. Whereas C#/Java literature will always talk about design patterns, object orientated behaviour.

Its a mind set.

Remind me exactly where anonymous delegates are in VB again please? Oh yeh, and the Yield keyword?

I forget....!
Left by Markk on Nov 01, 2007 4:39 AM

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Very surprising indeed. I made the 4 "feature tour" videos that are up on Microsoft's Express site, and expected that Visual Web Developer would be the most popular one by far. Also thought that C++ would be a way distant #4. Guess I was way wrong on both counts!
Left by Lorin Thwaits on Nov 01, 2007 5:43 AM

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Markk, that is utter hogwash. VB in orcas has lambda expressions, nullable types, all the good stuff. But wait, where are XML literals in C#? Oh yeah...
Left by Jason Olson on Nov 14, 2007 11:19 AM

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