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Amazing... you let someone go to ONE MVP Summit and sit in a couple VB sessions and now he's a man on a mission.  You're preaching to the choir here D. (Not that your message isn't right, because it is... I just find the newfound enthusiasm amusing.)

Read more here...

He's right of course... the lang wars are soooo 5 years ago. The divide is getting narrower and narrower every year. 

One thing I've noticed is that you don't really see the VB guys bashing C# nearly as much as the other way around.  Wanna know why?  We can read and work productively in BOTH languages.  How many C# guys can say that about VB?

Why do you think so many of the MSDN samples are in C#?  Because the VB guys can convert to C# a hell of a lot faster/easier than the C# guys can convert to VB.  It doesn't mean we don't bitch about the lack of samples and docs, because we do... but let's face it, the c# guys need it more than we do.

(If you don't see the humor here, I'm not gonna bother explaining) Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:13 PM General Interest | Back to top


Comments on this post: D'Arcy Lussier - newly baptised .NET Linguistic Parity Evangelist

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LOL, yeah, the VB guys don't bash the C# guys nearly as much. ::Rolls Eyes:: That's certainly not true at the MVP level. Having sat in both C# and VB sessions at the MVP summit, I heard VB developers bash C# guys just as much (if not MORE) than I heard the C# MVPs bash VB developers.

And I think there would be a lot of C# developers who would disagree with your statement on reading both languages. I know just as many VB developers (or have known in the past) that can't read a lick of C# than C# developers that can't read VB.

It's ALL a generalization-game from BOTH sides of the equation :).

Now with that said, I agree with you and D'Arcy. Use the right tool for the right job (which won't _always_ be the case for VB, either).
Left by Jason Olson on Apr 22, 2008 6:49 PM

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Nit-picking aside though, yes, I think that in general, _on the web_, you will see C# developers bashing VB developers more. But is that a fair comparison? I mean, how many VB developers even know how to use the int4rw3bs :P. I KEED, I KEED! (of course, you know I'm just kidding with this since I'm just as pissed as you are with the VB percetion).

I honestly wonder if it can ever change though. A lot of times, it seems to be human nature to bash anything that is perceived as a "competitor" to something you love and hold dear. But that's a discussion for another time :P.
Left by Jason Olson on Apr 22, 2008 6:54 PM

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ALL of you "higher language" people are really missing the boat...REAL programs are written directly in MSIL.

Only a whining bunch of namby, pamby wimps would get hooked on all of that high calorie "syntactic sugar".

Of course for the "full" effect you should punch all of your source material onto either paper tape or punched cards, direct all of your output to 14" wide green-bar, fan-fold paper, nicely bound into hanging folders.

Left by TheCPUWizard on Apr 22, 2008 9:25 PM

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Getting to the realisation that all languages have their values and that only children waste tim arguing about them is kind of a .Net puberty.... congrats to D'arcy - its great when the balls finally descend.
Left by Zman on Apr 23, 2008 12:31 AM

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I'm quite proud of the fact that as a C# developer I can still read and write VB.Net, but then I did come from VB to start with - it also helped I did a large VB->VB.Net upgrade a while back - nothing helps like a bit of actual experience.
Left by Sam Judson on Apr 23, 2008 5:09 AM

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